Welcome, I'm Peter Williams and for the past 10 years I've been connecting with thousands of people from the stage and online to help them discover the importance of spiritual and energetic practices so they can thrive with confidence, clarity and purpose. It is time to awaken your connection, align with your soul and achieve your own Inna Powa, right here on the Inna Powa podcast. Welcome everybody to another Inna Powa episode. I am joined by the lovely and absolutely awesome Sarah Wiseman. Oh my God. If you haven't heard about this lady, I tell you what, she's only recently come into my world as well and it's divinely timed, but all for multiple reasons, which we've just discovered by having a chat before getting onto the recording, but just to give you the quick intro, but she's gonna let you know, but Sarah has written over 16 books, award-winning books, helping all in spirituality, If you want to go check her out, she's got 1200 podcasts. This woman is a polythrow of information, canalds through and helping people. I can't wait to get into this, but let me before we get into it, let's just discover who Sarah is. So Sarah, first and foremost, thank you so much for your time and thanks for joining me. Oh, I'm so happy to be here, Peter, with you. Thank you. Glad we connected. Oh, look, it's, I love it. Devonely guided time. Everything the way it kind of to come through and I just love the fact that I'm like, yeah, I can pick someone else's brain and knowledge and it's always about expanding it as well. So I know like your website is like a great library of information. But for those who don't know you, just give us a quick rundown of, you know, where you are right now. Yes, okay. So right now I am a psychic, I am a channel and I teach my main thing, I can do all that stuff. But my mission here on this planet is to teach people how do you connect to the universe and how to just connect to all of this guidance that's the universe is thrown at us every single moment. Like that's what I teach. So I think I'm a teacher of intuition. I like the way it's like, but I teach it. Like, because when it all, yeah, when it It all started happening for me for some reason. I couldn't, you know, I'm sure there was a bazillion books, but I couldn't find them for some reason. And so I just started experimenting like, how does this work? How does this work? How does this work? And that became unbeknownst to me that was going to become this way of teaching that's kind of like a little more modern and like kind of let go of a lot of the superstitions of the past. And now I have a whole way of teaching and it's been really cool to take people through that and how that them have those experiences too. You call yourself the visionary teacher. Can you explain that more for the people who are tuning in? Yeah, well there's two parts. One, sometimes ancient wording is like you talk about third eye visioning. You see in your mind's eye psychically. So there's the visionary part. But then there's also the visionary part of, so I'm a queryist, so I'm kind of a rebel. I don't follow any rules. So there's this visionary part of, yeah, that's how we did it in the past. How do we do it now? What is the future way of doing this kind of work of connecting to guidance? So how else can we do it? What's a new way to do it? How can we go faster and dump some of the older methods away? So really discovering it and bringing it into the model and I think that's where you and I really do connect because it's the same thing of you know it's kind of stepping in that even for me it was about like yeah the psychic the medium the intuitive like the healing ever really wanted to do it. Then it was like there's more yeah and there's more and I think the same thing your mission your purpose that's what really long same thing I'm like I've got to teach people these to tap into this more and that's where it kind of comes from it. But it's interesting. How do you look at your journey going from being that and working your way through to becoming the visionary teacher and getting yourself out there and teaching all this? But it hasn't all been smooth sailing. Has it? No, the boat capsized. I love that. That is the easiest way to exploit the boat capsized. It was it's single swim. It was single swim. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was awful actually. I was psychic as a kid. I was a medium as a kid. That was all there, but when I, where I grew up, I'm on the west coast of the U.S., where I grew up and when I grew up, there was no language for that. We didn't have, I'd never even heard the word psychic until I was, you know, much adult. So I had all these experiences and what was given to me was, they're very imaginative child. You're a good, you're a good, you're too much for it. - Very good. - Yes, yes. And so life went along and then I was living a very, very mainstream conservative life. I worked as a very mainstream conservative, this idea of like being the good girl and I was just, I was married, I had kids, I was working and it was just, you know, just don't look at any of that stuff that had happened as a kid, just that's not allowed. And then I was on a plane and I had a oxygen mask came down and all the oxygen in the plane went away. We had to make an emergency landing. It wasn't the near death experience. People always talk about they're on the operating room and they see the white light in the tunnel. It wasn't that, but the plane just filled with source, I guess. I don't even know how to explain it, but I walked off the plane when we did land. We were all okay. I was completely different and it just like clicked back into remember when you were a kid and you were psychic and it there it was again and everything just opened up and I kind of think that's what it took for me because I was so stubbornly you know with the blinders on but I really don't think not everyone says stubborn is me like you don't have to have you don't have to have that experience to wake up. I think that's a good reminder. I know. Remember, you do not need to be on a plane with an emergency landing in order to switch into the spiritual side. Exactly. Don't try this at home, you know, that whole idea. But no. Yeah. Allow that. It's like it's the warning on the label. Do not try this at home or you know. No, it was just what I needed because I think I was so locked into, you know, trying to live this one way and the universe was like, no, that's not even your path. You're living, you're totally living on the false path. And you think it's the right thing and it wasn't. And then it was pretty scary to come into this other world that I really didn't have any background in. So when you talked about where there are problems on the way, yes, like that opening, I got divorced, I lost my job, my father died at that same time. So all these pretty rough things happened and it was several years of just kind of grappling know, I don't really want this path. I kind of liked the blinders or I don't really know how to do this or I don't even know what this is. So there's this multiple years of just kind of wandering around going like well what do I do now? So it's interesting. I just want to do because I really find that point so like it's interesting and I think it's a really great point to stress for our listeners. You had multiple years where you're kind of just floating around. And you would you say you were resisting it in some shape or fall or you were just kind of you saying there you wanted to go back to that other path with the blinkers on. I was highly resisting it. In fact, my dream at that point was I'll just say it anyway. I have said this before. It's so embarrassing still but I wanted to be I don't know if you have this term there but I wanted to be a chick lit author, which is like women's romance. Because I was afraid there's nothing wrong with that. Actually, I have some clients who are exactly like that. No, it's good. It's just, it's totally fine. It's just that was so not like where I was going to go, but that's what I thought I was going to do. And I would just go and pretty much be arguing with the universe saying, you know, I just want to be this novelist can't I just do this? Can't this be what I open up into? And nothing was working. And then finally there was one time I was on the beach and I was just crying. I was so angry because I wanted to be this novelist and nothing was happening. I just got rejection after rejection after rejection. And I finally said to the universe, okay, whatever you want me to do, I'll do it. Just like, I will let go of my idea the next day this agent contacted me the next day after that. And said basically like, we really hate your novel, but would you like to do a book on channeling, right? Like what? - What? - Yeah, so it was just kind of like, and of course I was like, yes, I'll do the book. I didn't even care. - So this is all like 24 hours before, you're literally on the beach, bullying you, I'm over this, like what's going on? I'm, it's like. - Surrendering. - Literally 24 hours. - Yes, it was the next day, and I just thought this is the weirdest thing ever, and I just said yes, and that was the start of all of it, all of it, and it's because I let go of what I think it is now is I let go of my idea and I let I stopped being in charge and I just let the flow of the universe take me to you know the particular destiny that I'm as supposed to have like everybody. I'm not the only one that gets this flow like everybody gets it. Everyone gets this flow and we all have different destinies, but I just finally surrendered to mine and then there it was. There's a massive word right there for surrender. Yeah. What a great way. I'm going to lead in this. I'm going to put you on the spot here. Okay. It is a, I love the word. I find it kind of like a constant lesson that in my personal life is learning to. "Okay, right, I'm surrendering this one for the greater good of where it needs to be." But for those who are unannounced yet, and I know, because I've got clients and I've got people who are on social media, they go, "I know the word surrender and I've read this book," or, "I still don't get it." So can you just, we're going to get a little bit off topic here, but I think it's really, what was, how would you describe, or how do you teach your people in members and stuff like what serenaries. I think two ways of thinking about it could be useful. One would be actually three things. So one, the phrase, you just detach from outcome. You kind of know where you want to go, but you, it's like, we'll see what happens. I just let it go. The other is this phrase, I think it was Rumi. What you are seeking is seeking you, or maybe it's backwards. What is seeking you is you, anyway. That idea that like, you can't miss where you're being led to. And then the other way is, I think this is Ram Das, like that idea of you can't push the river. And that's been so helpful to me. Like you just literally can't, like if you're in water, you can't push your hand in water. You just have to go with the actual water current. And that is the energy of the universe taking you there. So you can just, what are you gonna do? Build a little beaver wall and just try and stack them, you know, stop water, but like just like, "Oh with it." - This is my life. I am in control. It's like, "Oh, tap you." No riff that's gonna stop me. - Yeah, you can stop it. So you might as well just float on with where it's taking you. - It's a real kind of driven. 'Cause I'm most used the same one when I'm working through people and understanding that. What you're tapping yourself to create that flow, I call it like that beaver wall with all the junk. called it junk and the trunk up in the head. And it's like when you get in the flow, like that junk will come to the floor. - Yes. - Like it flows down the river. So you have to acknowledge it, you have to see it, and then you have to let go of it in some shape or form. And that frees up the space for more flow in your life. But I really appreciate the fact of you just walking through that four people, 'cause I know it's a common question I get asked, like I always say, it's always great to get a different perspective and understand where it kinda comes from. But what an example though, like in that moment, such a short space of time, of surrendering, and it just kind of flipped around. - Yeah. - I'm really trying, 'cause like, you know, being there like that, so I could get you out, I'll try to put myself in your shoes, and I'm like, wow, this is like an overwhelming sense of emotions all here and one. And it's like, how did you feel like when you were kind of got into that flow? Did you really have to acknowledge in yourself that you can't have releasing the chick flicks. - Yeah, I had to release, yeah, absolutely. I had to accept that I was gonna be more, like at that time I would say more on the woo-woo side is what, and I just had to accept, I just had to accept like, okay, that's what I'm doing. Yeah, I'm gonna be at and almost like letting go of one identity and going to the true or more authentic identity that I was supposed to do at that time. - And I suppose you kind of, almost like it's in a way you kind of let it come out. You must got to discover it. And I find that something like way like that, and it's like there's nothing wrong with that dream of being the chick flick novelist. - It's just, if it's not like the road you're supposed to be on, then you're on the wrong road. If it's your road, it's perfect. Yeah. - And I'm a teacher by trade. And it's like it was not that traditional teaching path not the road. And the same kind of like I didn't quite have the plane with the oxygen masks. I had the Fukushima earthquake with you know 9.0 and shaking the earth and radiation and all the rest of it and needed to leave and it had to change my whole path. It was the very and it was that whole it was what am I supposed to do was such unpredictable circumstances but I think I think it's almost the same though, it gives these things, these abilities, all my chance or choice to use these abilities was kind of just revealed. It was like, here it is. And I'm like, okay. And just going yes and going with that flow. And like I always say, like if I look at that point and before that, if anybody had said to me that this is what I've been doing with my life, I would have laughed in their face. And I'm pretty sure no guidance counselor at high school was going to say, by the way, I think you've really gone on stage talking to dead people. You know, so it's, and I think that's why I always try to show. And that's what I love about your story because it's very similar in the fact of, I think, you know, universe really worked with us. Yeah. To allow it. It's there. It just allowed it to see how it can work for us and with us. Rather than trying to contrive it and put it in a boxing conform with what society is in the essence and look what you've done with it. Look at the journey. Look, look at this is amazing. I love this. So you've come this far. You've had this surrender. You've got the agent by the weekend, possibly the name later on. I can't just like an agent who's interested in channeling books on life. Where is this person? It's great because they're a great thing is it's becoming far more accepted and a little bit more mainstream now, which is a wonderful thing for all of us and kind of like working for. But obviously there's I love the fact that you've really, Obviously just run with this you've gone with that flow. But it's interesting because when we do this, things start to happen. But I just want to reiterate, even though that boat capsized, okay, you said that capsized, you've gone through that. That's the growth. You're on this journey. How's the sailing with that new boat been since then? It's similar actually. I don't know if that's for me continually being so stubborn. and getting easily getting off track. The universe, it's like wrestles with me to get me back on. So I think what it means is that it's fine to fail. Like I failed so things haven't worked. You know, you get so excited about one thing and then it doesn't happen. This doesn't happen. That falls apart and yeah, okay. But for me, I think the impact of having such a definitive event helped me because I know not everybody gets that kind of definitive event where it's 24 hours. So, but that helped me like every time I would doubt I could kind of look back and go, that was such a weird thing. It's got to be like I can count that that was real. I'm just going to keep going and then I would just keep going. I don't know. I don't think feelings are problem really. Like for anybody out there, I just think you just keep going. One of my favorite little quotes that I rely on for that is from Thomas Edison. He experimented with the light bulb, like the old humble light bulb that which we take to so upgraded these days and it was 2000 times, or over 2000 times before he found how it worked, but he didn't look at it as failure. He says that I was no, I didn't fail 2000 times. I actually figured out 2000 times how it didn't work. You got to look at that mindset to start with like he knew he was onto something, but he was just just about finding out how it was going to work. And I like that because probably now you're looking back, you don't see them as failures first say, you just realized that was the universe wrestling with you. - For me, I really have loved getting to meet and work with so many people along the path so that I think when I first started out, I was like, oh, I'll make money and this'll be awesome. And I do, like I do. I needed to make money to support my family and so forth. But what's been the most important is meeting these other people and helping them open up to their own gifts and just kind of like spreading the word. And that's been like if you look back at like what is the meaning of my life then it hasn't been about being psychic or a channel. It's been about helping other people feel better and find their way and not have as much suffering and that's been the point of the whole thing. I'm here in that. I'm going, that is, I just absolutely love that. Yeah. It's being of service and just helping people. And I do, it's, yeah, like I love that. What you say is like, you know, helping them to find ease in their life, to ease the suffering, but it's so, so true. And I love what you got in my book, you know, I might be the bias because I'm in the same boat, but I'm like, what a great purpose. What a great mission. For me, like the particular people, like so I work with a lot of people who have other gifts or they have hidden gifts that they didn't know they have. And a lot of people are introverted or very sensitive or kind of quirky or don't fit in right. And like me, all those things and so reaching out and helping create community for people that maybe didn't feel they fit in and saying, yes, look, here we are. We're all this way. And that's very supportive because mainstream doesn't necessarily support this type of activity or field, so it's nice to just have that community of others who are experiencing similar things. Community is a big, big aspect. You form that and you've really helped cultivate a lot of that in your field. That's evident by everything. That's mean, honestly, people go and check out her website. And it's like, you can see Sarah's been at this for a while. She's been cultivating and there's no weeds in that garden. I'm telling you, that garden's pristine. It's like the old Roman day gardens from back at the Roman Empire. It's just beautiful and cultured and there's so much there. Might wanna walk in and go (grunts) Where do I begin? And you just start by taking the first step in and having a look at it. But it is so true. It's like, you know, working in that. Now, as you know, like a common question to ask people, especially when the first time on here is like, you know, the Inna Powa is like, we've got the three points and it's about the awakening along and shape, which one do you feel resonates more with you in the work that you're doing? Well, I think those are three beautiful categories and I'm definitely on the awakened piece, helping people see just like my experience with the blinders, like you don't have to go through with a mainstream life, you can really be who you came here to be whatever that is. Doesn't have to be being a psychic or a medium or any of that, it's just what did you come here to do? And it's like waking up to that that's possible and that's actually why we're here. And I think you've again hit a really important point there is that even if you might gravitate to like the spirituality side of things or any of these abilities, but to be oneself doesn't necessarily have to incorporate using those abilities in your life like in a full-time way, there's more to us and that's mean because if that was all that was meant to be then our world will be very, very different. - Yeah, I was thinking about this earlier today, actually, I'm a terrible, awful cook, really bad. I burn everything, I mix it wrong, I don't time it right, I get into a panic mode, and I go into the kitchen, and so I can't do that. I can do clairvoyance, so simple, but we need all kinds of people to do what they came here to do and to do what we came here to do, So we all are doing our piece of the puzzle. Nothing is better or worse than the other. It's all needed, all of our gifts that we came in with. So it's like, what should we each come in for finding that? - And like sometimes we have to lean into this side of our life. And that's what I say to people, look, I don't see it as just gifts, like the spirituality or that faith aspect is important part of most people's life. and sometimes by leaning into that, you can discover those pieces of the puzzle. Now, I'm gonna throw you another curveball here. And I can see, oh, it's like, oh my God, here we go. There's no preparation. - Yes. - So Sarah's the Aquarian, she's the rebel, gets the stubborn. On the Gemino, I'm all about impromptu aspects. Let's keep it fun and that's like, no, whatever else. But just off the top of your head, and because I love it, because you know, part of your mission is helping people find their piece of the puzzle. Off the top of your head, what's one case where you remember you've helped someone find that piece of their puzzle? Can you share that with us? I actually think this is a thing that I do most days of the week actually. A lot of the work that I do involves working with guides or sometimes with the departed or with nature, like all the ways that we can be connected to or communicated with. And having someone have an experience where they go in and meet a spirit guide, for example, in my work, or maybe we'll take them through some mediumship and they'll meet an ancestor that they've never known before, or they'll do an exercise and they'll discover, you know, their partners cheating on them and it's confirmed. Or like so, they will just access information that heals or alerts or guides them to how to navigate their life. It's like bringing the tools of the teaching and then them having the aha for their own life. I wish I could be more specific. I know there's just like so many things happen for people. Like, especially like the ancestry work lately, people have been going in and correcting karma in the ancestral lineage and they go in and they're just crying and like this that was amazing or we've been as a group doing some healing work. One person in the group went into a coma and we were able to have like an emergency session of some of the people in the group and we did like a healing and she came out of it and so it's just kind of every day is filled with like these remarkable instances and that's just kind of how it is. And you're always going to be putting on the spot with that one because it was like there is so much involved in the work. I wish I had a great story but it's like there's just so many stories. It's hard to know. Yeah. There's so many. Yeah. Oh look you know just because see where it's going. I thought I'm not. I'm being prompted. I'll listen to the prompt. We'll see where we need to go. But it is it's it is amazing how I can work and the one thing that I really value there is we can teach and people like honestly, anybody who's listening or watching, you can learn. You can learn and learn and learn, you can learn as much as you want, but there's something profound in the experience. And I think that's what is great about your work series, just you help foster that personal experience for people, and whether it may be whether it's the guys or the ancestral healing, but you find this power in that personal experience for people learning. You know, a lot of people are really do, do a lot of practices like they might have a meditation practice, a yoga practice, or they've been to therapy or they've done this and that. And it's kind of remarkable to me because just going in and connecting to the guides, for example, which is so powerful and uplifting and astounding. And they've never had that experience before. They never thought it was possible. And then they can go do that every single day. And the life changes when suddenly, instead of trying to navigate everything on your own, you've got these magnificent helpers who can help you sort things out. And yeah, it's just astounding. And sometimes with people in the mediumship, in teaching them that, and then they'll have that experience of, you know, a grandparent will come and, first, they'll be like, how do I know I'm not, you might give this all the time, but how do I know I'm not making this up? And the gramparent will appear in like some outfit that they didn't even remember. And then there it is. Or the gramparent will provide some exquisitely precise, you know, information for them. And it kind of blows their mind because then it shifts every part of the paradigm like, "Oh, there is life after death." "Oh, we do ride in car-nate. Oh, this isn't all there is." And then it's like, you know, the whole thing opens up and that is a pretty remarkable too because I think a lot of times they didn't think it would be that deep and they didn't think they could do it and then they can. And this is for, I think pretty much everyone can do it. I've only had a couple types of people that really are already doing a really, really strong meditation practice like the type of meditation where you're meditating for hours and hours. And sometimes you go too far deep into meditation and you can't access the sweet spot. Yeah, the gap that yeah, yeah, there's a gap in between Yeah, yeah, and it's I am entirely because I you know when I have to help people So I know exactly what I'm talking about the company. I don't get anything They're gone and you're like yeah, I One of the things I do for that is I'll have an exercise where I tell people okay I want you to go to a rock concert and connect to the guides I want you to go the grocery store I want you to go to your workout and all these weird places and I want you to Do the process there and then you'll see You can do it. You don't even have to have your eyes closed. You can just go there It's all around that conscious space It's it is it is it's an amazing thing trying to but it can be hard to get through to some people going You don't need to go that deep It's not always a necessity and you know, and it's like oh, yeah, yeah, yeah Definitely an upper conversation about that So I'm reminding myself and I've got my team here going to stand task piece It's fantastic, fantastic. And everybody knows me long enough. I was like, oh, this is like a way we go. We're talking for hours on end, which is, I don't mind, I can talk for hours on end, but we've got to be mindful of the listeners because they're going, "Pete, I'm only driving listening to this podcast for 30 minutes and it's like two hours, I can't do it." So I'll be mindful, but it's beautiful, but it's something definitely worth noting and making people aware of that you can have access to that at any given time. But it will come when it's ready and when that connection's ready, I believe it's, it when it does, it's a beautiful moment. And it's an experience, isn't it? Like it's so personal. I found mine so personal. It's like finding best friends forever. - You know, some of these movies, I can't think of it, but some of these movies where they should, yeah, well, I don't know, I can't remember which ones, but they'll show spirit guides, like hanging out as the buddies, and it's like, yeah, that's kinda how it is. Like they're not physically in the flesh, at least for me, they're not. But yeah, they're just always there and you have this divine team to sort things out with like a higher level of understanding than the human level and that's really interesting. And yeah, yeah. - Yeah, it's in a real kind of experience. And they do, and the great thing is once you do tap into that, they can help, and I like the way you said that with the divine, like on this higher level, or guiding things the way that we do. And I think, you know, with a lot of time, you know, and focus and awareness and energy and practice, the same thing, even how we've connected is just listening and going, okay, there's something divine going on here. And that's kind of cool. So, and it kind of leads us into the next question we want to take it because it is just like, you really are that inspiration of how you've taken this moment of surrendering and really kind of going with it. Of course, there's ups and downs and stuff like that. I wanted to just show people that it can be done once you listen to it. What was probably one of the biggest challenges that you faced stepping into this on a real like full-time basis and accepting this role? Well, the first thing was my mom because I was raised. You didn't think that was your... You tell what I mean and everybody they did. The first book, my first book was called "Writing the Divine." I was all about channeling and it included channeling. And my mom was so excited that I was having this book, right? And but I had forgotten to mention to her that it was about psychic stuff because, you know, she was just like, no, that was just a hard no for her. It was just, we don't do that. And so I could just kept telling her my book was about writing, right? Because it's called writing the divine psychic thing. Yeah, mom, my book's about writing. And then, and she actually marched down to the Barnes and Noble. That's the big bookstore down here. The day the book came out to get her daughter's book. And then, you know, the, what is that? The goose was cooked. [LAUGHTER] And then she's like, what is this about? And I had to, again, stepping into, like, coming out into the true identity. So that was the first part, which has self over time. But that was really different. - The spiritual closet is what I call it. - Yeah, it was really different for our family. We didn't have anybody that did anything like that. - Well, you certainly announced it by the sounds of it. It's like, you know, your mom goes down to the bookstore and it's like, what's all this about? - Where's, yeah. - And, there's no matter, I think everybody can relate to you, your parents at some point going, what's all this about? What have you done? What, hang on, explain this to me. - Yeah, so what does this mean? But then the other thing for me is like, I'm just really shy. And I do find in this kind of setting, but to walk into a big expo or body-mind spirit fair, and you set up the beginning, like you set up your table and then all these people, and it was just energetically super overwhelming for me. And that's been hard, like just being so introverted and yet needing to teach. Like, they don't match, and yet, so I teach, but then I have to remember to kind of sort my energy out just by having quiet time. And whereas people that are really extroverted, like they just thrive on all the, you know, getting on stage and the intention and so forth, and they don't need that recharge, but for me, it's like, - Oh, we do. - Okay. - We do, we do. I was, I was, I was, 'cause as soon as you mentioned in quiet time, I'm like, you're speaking my language. It's the hardest thing to explain to people, and it would be interesting to see if you can actually relate is because I totally can understand like needing that balance pretty in charge of the energy. And I say to people, it's, and I honestly thought it was a Gemini thing. (laughs) So that's okay. Because Gemini's thrive on social aspects. It is a big thing. It's a big thing for me. But what I've found when I've stepped into this work is very similar. Even though I can get up and stage and I can be, you know, in an audience of, you know, hundreds of people. But as soon as, like, if I've done a lot of work with a lot of people, I need to shut myself away from the world and I need to recalibrate and recenter my energy. But it's really and my wife hates it's about me. She's like, "You're either on or you're off, you're on or you're off." And I'm like, "Well, that's just the way that I work." So if I'm working throughout the week and I might come home on the weekend and I've done a couple of shows, whatever, I feel so bad and guilty sometimes because my my kids and more like, "Okay, let's go out, we're gonna go here, we're going to this festival, we're gonna, I'm like, I don't wanna see people, I don't wanna be around people, I'm overwhelmed, I'm drained, I need this like, insulation period." - Yes. - And you know, they're gonna go, but you're home, and it's like, "I need to recharge." But the weird part is, after a couple of days, they're like, "Okay, where's the people? "Take me to a shopping center, I, or, give me, I need people." And it is, I can't deny, I'm an author, I do have that. So do you get that, like, even though you're saying you're insulating, like you get overwhelmed, you recharge, do you find sometimes though you want to connect? Like you want to be more around people? Maybe that's just me. It could be just a pain thing. - No, I think I'm pretty reclusive. I'm sort of reclusive and hermit like, I'm mostly with my family, my husband, my family, and then I'm with my student groups or my team. There's not a lot of room for extra socializing with the neighbors. Like my husband was like, how many neighbors do you know? And I'm like, I think I know two of them maybe. And he's like knows everybody, you know. So, but it's okay, but it's like accepting like, again, it's like what is, who is your authentic self and just doing that? Like your way my way. - What's natural for you? - Yeah, yeah. Not trying to fight and put yourself into a different space. - And again, that's such a great thing to remind people, don't fight it if it's who you are. just kind of really, really go with it. But I love the fact that you recognize that energy, calibration and space. And so it's like, and this kind of is a great leading because, you know, I love it. Like I'm thinking, wow, like I'm in the middle of, you know, at the time of this recording going through my second book, totally different from my first one. It's also a channel reference book. Totally, like I can speak. I'm good at speaking. Writing time, sit down, focus. It's like, oh my God, too much routine, not good for Gemini, right? (laughs) But I love this, you've written so much and you put so much effort there. What do you do to stay focused? How do you get focused on all your work and keep going with it all? How do you manage it? - Well, I've been doing it a long time, so I didn't do it all like this year. It's been, you know, oh. (laughs) - It's a, because you can't tell me, This is all COVID. You did it to the end of the year. - I did it. I did this all. It's the last month I just went with it together. No, well, I think that's part of it is, you know, some people are just really highly, specifically focused on one thing. And that is kind of, I don't, I have already raised my family. And so there's a lot of space now. I don't know. And writing was always just like, that was the easiest thing for me. writing is very simple. That's just always been almost like a very easy skill for me, but a lot of it is, so it's the universe, like a lot of things happen because at the beginning, like I was broke, I just needed to like create another course so that we could have groceries that week, you know, it was literally that much, or And then things would come and people would say, would you like to do this? And I just pretty much always said yes. Like, yeah, I'll do that one. And then I'll do that. It kind of, it looks like there was a plan, but I don't really think there was a plan really. It just was like-- - That makes me feel so much better, but I was like, I don't think so. - I thought it was just me. - I don't think there was a plan. It was like, maybe I'd start to have a lot of medium-ship experiences like when my father passed. And then I would be like, well, I'm gonna make a course about this so people can learn how. Or I'd start to have nature experiences. And then I'd be like, okay, I'm gonna translate that into a book or something. And it was just like, yeah, it was just like, what was happening to me, I put into a form. - Wow, that's the epitome of going with the flow, isn't it? - Yeah, yeah. And that's had, like, you know, I've had pretty much extreme tragedy and trauma the last couple of years. And like other people in these, like it's not like our lives are perfect at all. We don't necessarily present, here is my life tragedy and trauma. Would you like to read a book on it? No, thank you. (laughing) So I've kind of stick to like the teaching. I don't try and share all my personal stuff, but it's there, just like everyone has, everyone is dealing with so much stuff all the time. I'm really aware of that. - I just want to say thank you for sharing that because it's something that I think, especially with the lovely social media world, it's something that can be kind of, either be misinterpreted or sometimes misconstrued with people's point of view, you know, we do have those things, but we just, I think, would you say it's kind of helps you 'cause you that teach your mode, you kind of compartmentalize it or on here I've got to, I want to help you. So you just kind of put that hat on and you stay focused on that and go about it that way. - Yeah, I think that's a really good way of you just take on, or even sometimes it's actually the technology is a entrainment to like the minute I go on Zoom or the minute I get my headphones in, boom, or a microphone, boom, it taps in and then they take it off and it's like, where's the snacks? Black storyality. Yeah, the next question, yeah, yeah. And look, I've just got this image. I was like, you know, you're taking your headphones off. I'm going to go and your house will walk in. So I spoke to the neighbor. Do you know them? And you'd be like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I get that too. It's like, you know, because it is, you get so in the zone sometimes and then also your part comes in as good. But just can't come me backtrack five steps. I just need to catch up. I've been in a different world. - So one thing I think is happening with all this Zoom and podcasts and phones. We're learning telepathy now, in who knows how long, but at some point we're gonna be able to just do this kind of communication without the devices. We can't do it yet, but in future human. So this is what we're learning now. Like we couldn't have done this 20 years ago, probably. I don't think so. I don't even know if we had phones 20 years ago. So things are moving very quickly in terms of our ability to communicate and pretty soon. Like I think my little laptop is so fancy, but you know, it's just gonna be like a laughable like those giant cell phones, you know, that they show in movies like it looks like a brick. Yeah, this is all gonna be different ways. - And people thought they were cool walking around with the phone hanging off there, it was big, you know? - Yeah, exactly. - It was there where they were bricks and the old car phones. - Mm-hmm. There's a big thing and it was a cool thing to have a car phone. It's a phone in the car. And it's amazing to think we've all got a phone in the car these days and it walks around with. And we're so attached to them now, which is another whole, there's an episode right there waiting to be spoken of there. But we'll save that for another one. But honestly, it's, I love the lead in it like we're kind of heading with it. And now you really feel like you're culminating a lot of your work in your next phase. Is that correct? I think now's the time to take the body of work of all, 'cause I have 33 courses and the books and all. And how do I make this more condensed or just make it more usable and make it more easy for people to use? So that's what I'm starting. I don't really know how to do that, but I'm just gonna feel like what doesn't work anymore and just toss that away. Trust the process. Literally just going through that. At times, recording, I did the same thing I took multiple courses and I'm like, no, how can I blend this? Make it more condensed in one thing to help people in a more succinct and compact and impactful way. And that's why I say, yeah, totally appreciate that. But you know what, in the meantime, while you're getting all that together, where can people come and check you out? Where can people come and reach out to you and go, this woman is Knowledge Plus. She's got the experience. So there's a betcha, there's someone listening and going, "Oh, this sounds like me, oh my God." So where can they find you? - Well, they can't come to my house because that would be very awkward, but I don't know. - They could become an neighbor. (laughing) - I don't know them because I'm always so old. (laughing) Yeah, no, they can go to sarahwicemen.com. And I know where you are, there's an actress, but I'm not the same person. There's an actress, Sarah Weisman, but it's just sarahwicemen.com and pretty much everything's there. I am on social media, but not very, I mean, I don't really respond that way. Just email me if you wanna be in touch and talk. - Oh, they look at you, honest, going, I've got the social media profiles. I'm doing the right thing by business standards. - Yeah, but I don't really look at that. Yeah, yeah, just, you know. - No, that's cool, I love it. It's honest, it's okay. See, it's all about being the natural thing in your gun, that is what it is. But you can check it out there, and it's obviously, so it was, and I'll put that up in the show, and it's for everybody who wanna check it out. but honestly, what a pleasure it has been to connect with you, talk to you, get to know more about you. It has been absolutely pleasure. Just so I just want to say once again, thank you. And Sarah, why isn't everyone? - Thank you. I just had a wonderful time. Thank you, Peter. - And no doubt, look, I'm going to get you back. You're going to be back. And I've got a challenge here. So just before we saw an off like, you know, "Oh, I'm not used to such eye." Clearly, once we get in the same room, physical room because Sarah is going to be a game changer. Right, you're like, "We're going to make things happen." That's what I do. It's going to be good. But I'm looking forward to it and looking forward to it connecting with you in the soon. But thank you again so much for your time. Thank you. (upbeat music) [Music]
